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Feeling Things with Amy & Kat is a podcast for anyone who’s ever had feelings—or wants to. Hosted by Amy Brown and therapist Kat Van Buren, this is a space where nothing is off-limits. From deep reflections on childhood to pop culture obsessions to what’s happening in the world, all feelings deserve a seat at the table—big, small, awkward, joyful, confusing, and everything in between. At its core, it’s real friends having real conversations about real feelings. Some episodes go deep, some stay light, but all are rooted in curiosity, honesty, and connection. In a world that moves fast, sometimes the most powerful thing we can do is pause... and feel things.

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  • Feeling Things About Feeling Ugly, Con Artists, and the Episode We Had to Delete

    Tuesday, April 1, 2025

    1 hour 12 minutes

    Kat runs Amy through a ‘con artist checklist’ to see if Amy’s fallen for a scam with all of her face fitness investments. Amy and Kat also go over 2 of the 8 core feelings: lonely and hurt (sharing gifts, impairments and relatable stories for each feeling—which the story that came up with hurt is something that recently happened between Amy and Kat!)  Feelings can either guide us toward healing or lead us into cycles of suppression and disconnection. Feelings aren't good or bad, they simply are, and acknowledging them can be the first step toward reclaiming our energy, health, and wholeness...

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  • Healing from the Inside Out—Breaking Free from the Need to Numb (With Dr. Chip Dodd) (Outweigh)

    Saturday, March 29, 2025

    17 minutes

    OUTWEIGH: If willpower alone isn’t enough to stop numbing, what is? In this episode, Chip and Leanne explore why true healing starts with understanding the function of our coping behaviors—not just trying to “fix” them. They share the first steps to recognizing an unhealthy coping pattern, decoding what it’s really telling you, and shifting from avoidance to awareness. This episode is all about embracing discomfort as the key to freedom and learning how to break the cycle for good. Visit Chip's website at: ChipDodd.com You can order your copy of Chip's book, The Voice of the Heart: A Call T...

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  • How Crying Over a Bagel Can Show Us What We Need (If We Pay Attention)

    Thursday, March 27, 2025

    48 minutes

    Have you ever found yourself crying over something like mustard being put on your burger when you asked for ketchup or getting tots instead of fries? How about getting cream cheese on your bagel when you asked for butter? Chances are...you know exactly what we are talking about!! In an effort for y'all to get to know Kat better (since she is joining Amy as a full-time co-host next week) Amy is playing her favorite You Need Therapy (Kat's podcast) episode about the time Kat cried over a bagel. Why do small inconveniences sometimes take away our ability to utilize rational thinking and drive ...

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  • Same Feed, New Feelings: 4 Things is Getting a Makeover (5th Thing)

    Tuesday, March 25, 2025

    23 minutes

    4 Things with Amy Brown is getting a makeover! Starting April 1st, the podcast will change to Feeling Things with Amy & Kat. It'll still be on the same feed (you don’t need to change a thing), but now Kat Van Buren, the therapist you already know and love from our 5th Thing episodes and host of You Need Therapy podcast, is officially joining Amy as full-time co-host. In this episode, Amy & Kat talk about why they're making the change, what you can expect moving forward, and how you can get involved (hint: go follow @FeelingThingsPodcast on Instagram for a very good giveaway).This change ref...

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  • Why We Numb—The Real Reason We Avoid Pain & Seek Comfort (With Dr. Chip Dodd) (Outweigh)

    Saturday, March 22, 2025

    19 minutes

    OUTWEIGH: Why do we turn to food, alcohol, shopping, or even busyness when life feels overwhelming? In this episode, Chip and Leanne dive into the real reason we numb—what we’re actually trying to escape or avoid—and how society conditions us to suppress rather than process emotions. They break down the neuroscience behind coping mechanisms, revealing why they provide short-term relief but lead to long-term suffering. If you’ve ever wondered why breaking free from old habits feels impossible, this episode will give you the clarity you need to start shifting your patterns.  Visit Chip's webs...

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  • Undefining Masculinity with Justin Baldoni

    Thursday, March 20, 2025

    33 minutes

    Amy was inspired by a conversation with her girlfriends at her birthday party this week to share a chat that Kat had with Justin Baldoni about some of the harmful messages that our culture's idea of masculinity creates. Justin came out with a book, titled Man Enough: Undefining My Masculinity, and started the Man Enough Podcast in 2021 in an effort to further undefine masculinity and offer freedom to those who have been hurt by the current popular beliefs of what being a man looks like. In this episode you will hear about some of those beliefs and gain a better understanding of why we need ...

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  • Amy’s Epiphany About Celebrating Her Birthday + Give Your Future Self a Chance + More (5th Thing)

    Tuesday, March 18, 2025

    56 minutes

    Not only does Amy bring the craziest story about her niece and her boyfriend, she also has a breakthrough as to why celebrating her birthday is a little uncomfortable. Kat provides today’s quote: “Don’t be so attached to who you are in the present that you don’t give your future self a chance” from Vin Jang after she heard him on another podcast. This quote leads to conversation around CHANGE!! Speaking of change, next Tuesday (March 25th) is the big announcement that Amy & Kat have been so excited to tell you about. They also talk about Amy’s improv & more!   HAVE THE BIRTHDAY YOU NEED TO ...

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  • What Is Addiction, Really? The Coping Mechanism That Becomes a Trap (With Dr. Chip Dodd) (Outweigh)

    Saturday, March 15, 2025

    21 minutes

    OUTWEIGH: Addiction isn’t just about substances—it’s about the ways we cope with pain, stress, and unmet needs. In this episode, Chip Dodd and Leanne unpack how behaviors like emotional eating, over-exercising, workaholism, and social media addiction follow the same addictive patterns as substances. They explore the difference between coping mechanisms that help us heal versus those that keep us stuck, and how the brain wires itself for addiction. If you’ve ever felt caught in a cycle of numbing or self-sabotage, this episode will help you understand why—and what you can do about it. Visit ...

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  • The Self-Care Shortlist: 4 Simple Ways to Feel More Like Yourself

    Thursday, March 13, 2025

    17 minutes

    Fresh off her family therapy retreat, Amy reflects on the importance of quick, effective ways to create moments of refuge throughout the day. She goes over 4 simple ways to help reset and reconnect. First thing is a concept from therapist Katie Gustafson: hosting emotions like guests at a dinner party! Second thing is dopamine dressing: how intentional outfit choices can boost mood and confidence. Third thing is unusual signs of emotional stress: like yawning, itching, and fidgeting, and how they may indicate the body is holding onto emotions. For the fourth thing she revisits the 5-4-3-2-1...

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  • I Don’t Believe in Miracles, I Rely On Them (5th Thing)

    Tuesday, March 11, 2025

    43 minutes

    This week, Amy shares her experience at a therapy retreat she attended over the weekend—with her kids and ex-husband, Ben—including a powerful moment when something she said may have been exactly what someone needed to hear. She and Kat also dive into a listener email about childhood bullying, sparking a conversation about the importance of close friendships—not just in school, but throughout life. Plus, Amy gives an update on her face fitness journey and reveals the surprising connection between the pelvic floor and so much more! QUOTE: "I have an excellent memory, just not for things that...

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  • Finding Love Within Herself Allowed Her To Recieve It From Another (Suzanne's 2 Year update) (Outweigh)

    Saturday, March 8, 2025

    44 minutes

    OUTWEIGH: Two years after our case study from last week, Suzanne came back to share what’s happened since her Stressless Eating journey—and the transformation goes far beyond food and body image. In this powerful follow-up, she reveals how healing her self-image not only gave her peace with food but also opened the door to calling in true love. What once held her back—her deep-rooted struggles with self-worth—became the very thing that helped her step into the healthiest, most fulfilling relationship of her life. Suzanne and Leanne reflect on the full-circle moment of her journey and the ri...

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  • Breakup Detox: How to Let Go & Move Forward

    Thursday, March 6, 2025

    35 minutes

    Spring isn’t just for cleaning out your closet...it’s also the perfect time for a heart reset. Breakup coach Sarah Curnoles joins Amy to talk about the power of a Breakup Detox and how to turn heartbreak into healing. From surprising ways to let go of an ex to the biggest mistakes people make post-breakup, Sarah shares expert advice on moving forward with clarity and confidence. Plus, why “Breakup Season” is a real thing and how to emotionally prepare if you feel a split coming. If you’re struggling to let go, this episode is full of practical tools and mindset shifts to help you heal.  Cli...

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  • We Shouldn’t Be Buying These Items & The Weird Thing Amy Wants Done With Her Body When She Dies (5th Thing)

    Tuesday, March 4, 2025

    33 minutes

    Amy and Kat always feel the need to give the full backstory when telling a story. Sometimes their friends can get bored with all the details, so Amy and Kat chat about ways that will help them be more concise (If you have ADHD, this might help you too!)  They also discuss an interesting question that Kat’s husband asked her over dinner: “What is something you thought was normal when you were younger, but then you became an adult and realized not all families do this thing?” Kat and Amy both have some things that come to mind from their childhood, as well as a wild Thanksgiving tradition the...

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  • From Food & Body Prison to Authentic Self-Love: Suzanne’s Transformation (Outweigh)

    Saturday, March 1, 2025

    53 minutes

    OUTWEIGH: In this special case study episode of Outweigh, Leanne sits down with Suzanne, a woman who spent decades trapped in the exhausting cycle of dieting, binge-eating, and self-rejection. Despite her external success, she felt stuck—knowing deep down that life had more to offer but unsure how to break free from the vicious cycle of food and body struggles. Apprehensive but ready for change, Suzanne took a leap of faith and joined Stressless Eating. In this raw and inspiring conversation, she shares the pivotal shifts that helped her finally forgive herself, love herself, and step into ...

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  • Beauty, Healing and Resilience with Meegen Pearson

    Thursday, February 27, 2025

    46 minutes

    Amy first heard of ketamine therapy while at a brow appointment with Meegen Pearson (founder of beautybymeegen.com) so Meegen is back on the podcast for a heartfelt and honest conversation that spans beauty, healing, and resilience. They both get into their personal (but not expert!) experiences with ketamine therapy and then they pivot completely to talk about how Amy's lack of botox is changing her brows (she might need a microblading makeover!) Meegen also shares her journey into areola tattooing for breast cancer survivors, a passion inspired after her mom was diagnosed and she also urg...

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  • Things That Are Saving Our Lives Right Now (5th Thing)

    Tuesday, February 25, 2025

    41 minutes

    A listener sent in a segment idea: "Things that are saving my life right now” (thanks Melissa!!) so Amy and Kat shared some stuff they’re loving at the moment! This is the main focus of the episode, but they do get into other things! QUOTE:“There’s a study that shows that having a 12 minute talk with a friend can change your whole way of thinking. This is a reminder that I always have 12 minutes for you.” Here’s the Biopelle Snail Serum (Tensage 40) that Amy’s used for a couple of years that Kat just recently became obsessed with…use code HAPPY for 20% off!  And here’s the Radiance Eye Crea...

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  • The Lies Women Believe About Their Bodies Part 4: “I’ll Always Struggle With Food/My Body/My Weight”

    Saturday, February 22, 2025

    13 minutes

    OUTWEIGH: The belief that food and body struggles are a life sentence keeps so many women stuck in cycles of frustration and self-doubt. In this episode, Amy and Leanne shine a light on why this story feels so true and how years of diet culture and negative self-talk make struggling feel “normal.” They’ll explore the brain’s role in keeping you stuck and share how small, consistent changes can rewire your patterns and beliefs for good. Takeaway: Struggling doesn’t have to be your forever story. By understanding how your brain works and shifting your narrative, you can create a future where ...

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  • Why We Put Things Off, Trusting the Wait & The ADHD Paradox

    Thursday, February 20, 2025

    19 minutes

    FIRST THING: Ever put something off for way too long even though you know you want to do it? Amy breaks down why we do this to ourselves and how to stop. SECOND THING: The first thing is about something you WANT to do, but what about tackling things you NEED to do? Amy's got encouragement for you (and herself) so y'all can just "do the dang thing." THIRD THING: If you're in a season of waiting: just because you can’t see progress doesn’t mean nothing’s happening. FOURTH THING: Amy talks about the ADHD paradox (because wow, it explains SO much!!) HOST: Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmyF...

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  • Protecting Your Energy: Boundaries, Work Maturity & The Power of a Good Shower (5th Thing)

    Tuesday, February 18, 2025

    35 minutes

    Amy and Kat cover everything from a recent misunderstanding they had as friends/colleagues to why Kat has paper origamis all over her house to other things that will be more helpful in your life like: - QUOTE: "Are you giving Level 10 access to people with Level 3 responsibility?"  - The 4 Types of Showers Women Take - Learning to Read Between the Lines: Amy shares a perspective from Gabriella Kovalenko about how people’s lack of accountability, honesty, or self-awareness often shows up in subtle but telling ways - Maturing at Work: Amy goes over a list of key lessons on navigating the work...

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  • The Lies Women Believe About Their Bodies Part 3: “I’ll Never Measure Up” / “I Have to Earn My Worth” (Outweigh)

    Saturday, February 15, 2025

    15 minutes

    OUTWEIGH: From constant comparison to impossible expectations, this episode dives into the lie that your worth is conditional—tied to your looks, achievements, or success. Amy and Leanne discuss why the comparison game is unwinnable, how societal pressures keep us stuck, and what it takes to find peace and contentment in your unique story. Takeaway: Your worth isn’t something you have to earn or prove. It’s inherent and unshakable. This episode will help you shift from perfectionism and people-pleasing to a mindset of self-acceptance and celebration. HOSTS: Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @Rad...

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  • 5 Lessons from Grief, Brain Hacks for Focus, Finding Closure, & a Game-Changing Parenting Tip

    Thursday, February 13, 2025

    29 minutes

    Amy covers 4 totally different things! First Thing: A heartfelt email from a listener sharing five lessons grief has taught after unexpectedly losing her husband. Second Thing: Brain exercises to boost concentration, beat distractions, and strengthen memory. Third Thing: Why we crave closure, why we can get stuck in the “why” trap, and how shifting our mindset can help us heal, move forward, and reclaim our peace. Fourth Thing: A game-changing tip for parents or co-parents This episode is a mix of heartfelt and practical…hope you enjoy it!  HOST: Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmyFollow...

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  • ADHD Brain Hacks, Lion’s Mane Benefits & Finding Comfort in Laughter (5th Thing)

    Tuesday, February 11, 2025

    45 minutes

    Amy & Kat get into how Lion’s Mane (a fluffy mushroom) is becoming a go-to for brain health and ADHD support. Is it really "nature’s Adderall"? Maybe. Maybe not. They also go over several do-able ADHD hacks that might help you in your everyday life and Amy reads a heartfelt email from a listener in Albuquerque who found comfort in laughter after losing a friend. It’s a reminder that even the most random, ridiculous conversations can bring joy when we need it most. Here's the Ryze Mushroom Coffee that Amy mentioned! QUOTE: “Being a child is great. You get upset and everyone decides it’s best...

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  • The Lies Women Believe About Their Bodies Part 2: “I’m the Only One Struggling Like This” (Outweigh)

    Saturday, February 8, 2025

    12 minutes

    OUTWEIGH: Shame thrives in isolation, convincing us that we’re the only ones struggling with food, body image, or self-esteem. In this episode, Amy and Leanne explore the impact of silence and secrecy on mental health and how connection can break the cycle of shame. By opening up about your struggles, you can find support, validation, and healing. Takeaway: You are not alone in this journey. Through vulnerability and connection, you can transform your relationship with food and your body and discover the power of shared experiences. HOSTS: Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmy Leanne Ellin...

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  • Are You Hurting Your Skin? Shower Myths, Skincare Truths, Drugstore Finds & The Truth About Beauty Sleep

    Thursday, February 6, 2025

    41 minutes

    Amy sits down with board-certified dermatologist Dr. Vineet Mishra to get expert advice on everything from the best drugstore products to whether collagen supplements actually work. They also dive into shower myths (do we really need to shower every day?), the real impact of diet on your skin, and the most overhyped skincare trends. Plus, the truth about beauty sleep, face fitness, daily sunscreen use, and more—including the age-old debate: body wash or bar soap? The answer may surprise you! Here is the snail serum they mention and code HAPPY will give you a discount!  HOST: Amy Brown // Ra...

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  • Hobbies, Red Flags & Why Amy May No Longer Be Datable (5th Thing)

    Tuesday, February 4, 2025

    43 minutes

    Next time something rubs you the wrong way, ask yourself: "Is this a red flag, or is it just something I don’t like?" Amy & Kat talk about how now not everything we call a red flag is actually a red flag. Sometimes, it’s more like an orange flag and it could turn red, sure, but it could also turn green!! Don't miss out on something awesome because of an ick! Speaking of red flags, Amy also opens up to Kat about her silly personality lately...she shares some very weird conversations she's been having lately and they wonder if Amy will be datable after all of this.  A listener, Melissa, email...

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  • The Lies Women Believe About Their Bodies Part 1: “I’ll Be Happy When…” (Outweigh)

    Saturday, February 1, 2025

    14 minutes

    OUTWEIGH: The belief that happiness and confidence are tied to achieving a specific weight or size is one of the most common lies women tell themselves. In this episode, Amy and Leanne unpack how cultural conditioning and personal narratives convince us that joy is always “one goal away.” They’ll share real-life stories of why chasing a “goal body” doesn’t deliver lasting happiness and how you can start reframing your beliefs to cultivate happiness in the here and now. Takeaway: Happiness isn’t a destination waiting for you at the end of a diet or goal—it’s something you can choose and crea...

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  • Lies People with ADHD Tell Themselves (And Why They're So Relatable)

    Thursday, January 30, 2025

    25 minutes

    If you have ADHD (or even if you don’t), you’re going to relate to Amy sharing "15 lies people with ADHD keep telling themselves" and her personal experience with each lie. One of the lies is about screenshots, so Amy takes a look back at the 6000+ screenshots she has on her phone and shares some that might be of interest to y'all....like this recipe for 'No Bake Almond Flax Balls' she found from 2015: 1 cup of dry old fashioned oats1/4 cup of dark chocolate chips1/2 cup of natural almond butter1/2 cup of ground flaxseed1/3 cup of raw honey 1 tsp. vanilla This recipe reminds us of Kat's pro...

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  • First Stall Theory, Face Fitness, & Feeling Your Way to Better Decisions (5th Thing)

    Tuesday, January 28, 2025

    47 minutes

    Amy kicks things off with the ‘First Stall Theory’—something to keep in mind next time you’re in a public restroom and then Kat shares a quote from Adam Grant about making major life decisions based on values rather than fleeting emotions. Other highlights include a listener update from Taylor, Kate Winslet’s wise advice on aging (don’t forget the back of your hands!), an update on Amy’s face fitness journey, book recommendations (Fourth Wing, November 9th, and Daisy Darker), and an impromptu chat about Ryan Reynolds mentally spiraling.  Call us: 877-207-2077 Email: 4ThingsWithAmyBrown@gmai...

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  • Unhooking from Unrealistic Ideals: Guiding Teens to Find Their Own Path Rather Than Chasing Others’ Approval (Outweigh)

    Saturday, January 25, 2025

    15 minutes

    OUTWEIGH: In the final episode of our series, Leanne sits down with Natalie Borrell of Life Success for Teens to tackle one of the biggest pitfalls facing today’s youth: the constant battle for external validation. With social media, peer pressure, and cultural standards all shouting for attention, teens’ developing brains are especially vulnerable to body comparisons, perfectionism, and crippling self-doubt. In this episode, Natalie and Leanne break down how these external ideals can distort self-image and push teenagers toward dangerous habits with food and beyond. They also share actiona...

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  • This Will Change How You See Life

    Thursday, January 23, 2025

    24 minutes

    Ready to see things differently? The goal of this episode is for us to rethink what it means to live a happier, more fulfilling life—one quote at a time! Amy loves quotes and today's she's sharing 4 of them that will challenge how you think about happiness, decisions, stress, and personal growth. Each quote is paired with relatable examples to help you apply these ideas to your own life. Below you'll find the recommended podcast episodes that go along with each quote. Thank you Leanne Ellington for input on these episodes! 1st Quote: "Happiness is not the absence of problems. It’s the abili...

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